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With the rules up for review, It might be the time to bring this rule and the deemed stuck rule into alignment with the current practice's??

Its mainly obvious to a new comer to the sport like myself, that whats actually written in the rule's and how that rule is implemented in practice is significantly different.

All you guy's that have been doing it for ever know exactly what the story is, warning blast's of the hooter and all that...... (It got explained to me on another forum, so i get the intention of the rule, so we don't need to go through it all again)

All I am suggesting is that the rule be re-worded to reflect what we all do in practice (this will also effect the deemed stuck rule )

Or, we leave the rule written as it is and adhere to what it actually says.
[Modified by: Peter Hall on 16 November 2009 17:30:45 ]

And how is current practice different to the rules? ie too much wheel spin you get penalised and if you are deemed stuck and have another attempt you get penalised. Some marshals are very relaxed on this rule but that is all.
They are 2 different things so need seperate rules.
What are you suggesting it be changed to? ie Come up with a better solution, don't just question the current rule.

At all of the events I have been to over the last year, there has been a warning blast of the horn, if you failed to stop your wheel spin, you recieved another blast of the horn and were given a penalty.

That has been the case at Norwest, Manukau, Taupo, Whangarei, and the other two norwest's I have been to years earlier.

No where in the rule's does it sa anything about a warning blast of the air horn.

Its does however say that if you get "hootered" you get a penalty if you fail to stop the excessive wheel spin immediately.

So we either change the rule to suit the current practice, or we change our practice to match the wording of the rule.

The rule it's self is fine.

It's just the way its worded.

My suggestion is that we re-word the rule to match how we use the rule.
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I'm not 100% convinced of my logic on this next bit, but bare with me...........

The reason I added the deemed stuck rule into this, is because quite often if you are "hootered" for excessive wheel spin, according to the wheel spin rule, you must stop that wheel spin from occuring immediately otherwise a penalty is incurred.

Once you do that, it more often than not means you are stuck i.e you have lost forward momentum and traction.

That then means you have been deemed stuck.

You can realign but can not make another attempt.

Sooooooo, by changing the wording of the excessive wheel spin rule to include something about getting a warning and then the next blast of the hooter being the penalty, does that then mean that the second blast of the hooter is also the point at which you are technically deemed stuck.

Can anyone think of an instance when they have been warned for excessive wheel spin, where they have backed off, slowed the wheel spin down and not been or very rapidly ended up stuck (other than when on the winch??)

also if you get a warning blast for excessive wheel spin, it would then suggest that there was the point at which you had the opportunity to stop and realign and have another attempt.

Once you receive the penalty for wheel spin, chance's are its to late to realign, because technically you are deemed stuck??

All I'm wondering is if these two rules could be simplified for the marshals, so it makes the call's easier for them, and make's it fairer for the competitors, as they are a bit subjective at the moment IMHO

Not saying it has to be changed, just putting some different thinking out there, thats all

[Modified by: Peter Hall on November 18, 2009 03:37 PM]